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		<title>by: manga megamans hentai</title>
		<link>http://housingbubblecasualty.com/more-nonsense-from-the-car-ca-assoc-realtors/#comment-599536</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: SoCalMtgGuy</title>
		<link>http://housingbubblecasualty.com/more-nonsense-from-the-car-ca-assoc-realtors/#comment-53305</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rob Ranger...

They get greedy and end up digging the hole even bigger for themselves.  Leverage is great when things are booming...but it will crush you when going the other way.  

Not to mention what they are doing is illegal...

SoCalMtgGuy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Ranger&#8230;</p>
<p>They get greedy and end up digging the hole even bigger for themselves.  Leverage is great when things are booming&#8230;but it will crush you when going the other way.  </p>
<p>Not to mention what they are doing is illegal&#8230;</p>
<p>SoCalMtgGuy
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		<title>by: Analysis Guy</title>
		<link>http://housingbubblecasualty.com/more-nonsense-from-the-car-ca-assoc-realtors/#comment-52194</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Today's report on Boston has been released on both my blog and our new website.  History has shown us that Boston is a great indicator of what will happen here in California.

&lt;a href="http://www.thebubblebuster.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;thebubblebuster.com&lt;/a&gt;
or
&lt;a href="http://homepricehistory.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Daily Home Price Analysis&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s report on Boston has been released on both my blog and our new website.  History has shown us that Boston is a great indicator of what will happen here in California.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thebubblebuster.com/" rel="nofollow">thebubblebuster.com</a><br />
or<br />
<a href="http://homepricehistory.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Daily Home Price Analysis</a>
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		<title>by: Rob Ranger</title>
		<link>http://housingbubblecasualty.com/more-nonsense-from-the-car-ca-assoc-realtors/#comment-51736</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>SoCalGuy,
I just came off the golf course with a friend of many years. His sister and husband live in the greater Sacramento area. My friend told me a friend of his sister and husband bought a home for 700K a few years ago and spent 150K fixing up the backyard with pools and waterfalls etc. Their intention was to flip a high end place for a sizeable profit. They now can not sell the place and have no money to pay the mortgage. Their idea to raise some short term cash is to buy another place for 700K and get the seller to have it appraised for 800K. Then pocket the 100K to make payments until it sells! I told my friend it was fraud and he said the guy trying to do this was a CHP Officer! How do people rationalize these actions?

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SoCalGuy,<br />
I just came off the golf course with a friend of many years. His sister and husband live in the greater Sacramento area. My friend told me a friend of his sister and husband bought a home for 700K a few years ago and spent 150K fixing up the backyard with pools and waterfalls etc. Their intention was to flip a high end place for a sizeable profit. They now can not sell the place and have no money to pay the mortgage. Their idea to raise some short term cash is to buy another place for 700K and get the seller to have it appraised for 800K. Then pocket the 100K to make payments until it sells! I told my friend it was fraud and he said the guy trying to do this was a CHP Officer! How do people rationalize these actions?</p>
<p>Rob
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		<title>by: SoCalRugger</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>SOCALAPPRAISER - have been a big proponent of the disconnect for a while, and a housing bear for quite some time - so I'm not shocked by anything we're seeing in the marketplace - just the level of BS these guys will throw out to manipulate data and protect their BMW's and bling.  Criminal if you ask me.

I support nothing more than a nice pint of lager at the pub afterwards nowadays, but used to lock with a college back east and a stint with LARC a while back.  Actually I likely pulled a muscle just hoisting a larger beer the other day so I'm far removed from the pitch it would seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOCALAPPRAISER - have been a big proponent of the disconnect for a while, and a housing bear for quite some time - so I&#8217;m not shocked by anything we&#8217;re seeing in the marketplace - just the level of BS these guys will throw out to manipulate data and protect their BMW&#8217;s and bling.  Criminal if you ask me.</p>
<p>I support nothing more than a nice pint of lager at the pub afterwards nowadays, but used to lock with a college back east and a stint with LARC a while back.  Actually I likely pulled a muscle just hoisting a larger beer the other day so I&#8217;m far removed from the pitch it would seem.
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		<title>by: Eugene T</title>
		<link>http://housingbubblecasualty.com/more-nonsense-from-the-car-ca-assoc-realtors/#comment-49954</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>480K for a home in California?.

I'll take 2 please. You can tell I'm from the bay area.

If you haven't found this blog yet check it out.

http://www.burbed.com/

These figures from CAR are laughable. 

Thanks for the breakdown based on the CAR numbers btw.

/et</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>480K for a home in California?.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take 2 please. You can tell I&#8217;m from the bay area.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t found this blog yet check it out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.burbed.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.burbed.com/</a></p>
<p>These figures from CAR are laughable. </p>
<p>Thanks for the breakdown based on the CAR numbers btw.</p>
<p>/et
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		<title>by: SOCALAPPRAISER</title>
		<link>http://housingbubblecasualty.com/more-nonsense-from-the-car-ca-assoc-realtors/#comment-49936</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>SoCalRugger,

Don't be amazed.  The things some of us in the REIC get to see and hear every day is amazing, especially so over the last 5 year run up.  The cracks are now apparent and the 07/08 flood of foreclosure / price reduction will make Katrina look like puddle.  What club do you support your local hooker at?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SoCalRugger,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be amazed.  The things some of us in the REIC get to see and hear every day is amazing, especially so over the last 5 year run up.  The cracks are now apparent and the 07/08 flood of foreclosure / price reduction will make Katrina look like puddle.  What club do you support your local hooker at?
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		<title>by: BearCat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Troy,

Your rent vs buy is off because rents are significantly lower.  I've looked at a lot of rentals in the SFBA, and a $535K house will rent for significantly less than $2100 - more like $1600/month.  At $2100/month, the equivalent price is more like $700K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy,</p>
<p>Your rent vs buy is off because rents are significantly lower.  I&#8217;ve looked at a lot of rentals in the SFBA, and a $535K house will rent for significantly less than $2100 - more like $1600/month.  At $2100/month, the equivalent price is more like $700K.
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		<title>by: adopt-a-landlord</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Troy,

Great calculations, but aren't you forgetting that if you buy now, your $535k asset may be worth $335k in a couple of years.  That's an extra $8k/month.  I think I'll stay with the rent option. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy,</p>
<p>Great calculations, but aren&#8217;t you forgetting that if you buy now, your $535k asset may be worth $335k in a couple of years.  That&#8217;s an extra $8k/month.  I think I&#8217;ll stay with the rent option. <img src='http://housingbubblecasualty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: anonymouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"That puts the cost of ownership at $2700/mo + maintenance &#38; insurance vs. $2150/mo for renting. . ."

Hmmm, yeah, right around the middle of the more appropriate range I gave.

FWIW I'm renting for 1700/mo a house which is supposedly worth ~625k. Two houses down an identical unit sold for 624k in June. (Not near shopping, but very near beach and huge parks.) So, I suspect if you look around you will find situations where the math is even more skewed toward renting.

Having said that, can someone explain to me why mortgage interest should be deductible? I've never understood that. If you are trying to give hard-working schmoes a break, why not make rent deductible, too? If you don't, isn't that effectively a regressive tax?

Don't answer - I already know. It is a regressive tax, and it is unfair. The right and wrong about it is solved for most Americans by whether or not they gain $$$ from it, so pretty much it's defined as "good" by most of the American public. $$$ pretty much defines what is good and nothing else. If Americans were making money off their adventures in Iraq, then they'd be hailing Bush as a hero right now, not complaining about an ongoing quagmire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That puts the cost of ownership at $2700/mo + maintenance &amp; insurance vs. $2150/mo for renting. . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm, yeah, right around the middle of the more appropriate range I gave.</p>
<p>FWIW I&#8217;m renting for 1700/mo a house which is supposedly worth ~625k. Two houses down an identical unit sold for 624k in June. (Not near shopping, but very near beach and huge parks.) So, I suspect if you look around you will find situations where the math is even more skewed toward renting.</p>
<p>Having said that, can someone explain to me why mortgage interest should be deductible? I&#8217;ve never understood that. If you are trying to give hard-working schmoes a break, why not make rent deductible, too? If you don&#8217;t, isn&#8217;t that effectively a regressive tax?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t answer - I already know. It is a regressive tax, and it is unfair. The right and wrong about it is solved for most Americans by whether or not they gain $$$ from it, so pretty much it&#8217;s defined as &#8220;good&#8221; by most of the American public. $$$ pretty much defines what is good and nothing else. If Americans were making money off their adventures in Iraq, then they&#8217;d be hailing Bush as a hero right now, not complaining about an ongoing quagmire.
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